2884: Building your Professional Brand in 1-Click, with AI

[00:00:00] A quick question for everybody listening, is your online presence a true reflection

[00:00:06] of your professional calibre? Everything that you've achieved throughout your career. Because

[00:00:11] in today's digital age, personal branding is not just an option, it's a necessity.

[00:00:17] And you probably want to invest more time in building that personal brand, especially

[00:00:21] in this period of economic uncertainty and not knowing where the job market is heading.

[00:00:27] But you don't have time, or you don't have the skills, or perceive you don't have the

[00:00:31] skills and AI might scare you. Well these are just a few of the myths that I want to

[00:00:35] completely shatter today here on Tech Talks Daily. Because I'm going to be talking with

[00:00:40] the dynamic founder of Crea, a platform at the intersection of AI and personal branding.

[00:00:47] In a nutshell it will make your life a lot lot easier. If you're a regular listener

[00:00:52] you'll know by now I'm not just about the technology, I'm not just about solving

[00:00:56] real world problems with that technology. I also want to wrap it all up in a fantastic

[00:01:00] and inspiring founder story and origin story, and keep delivering that message that technology

[00:01:06] works best when it brings people together on that human side of the tech industry.

[00:01:10] And my guest today is a testament to determination, innovation, the art of personal branding.

[00:01:16] And from her roots in India to a first generation immigrant in the US to leading

[00:01:21] a YC backed startup. Deb's story, trust me, is nothing short of inspiring. But here in 2024

[00:01:28] her venture is revolutionising how professionals showcase their talents, ensuring that they are

[00:01:33] seen by the right people at the right time. And her advice is simple, embrace your brand,

[00:01:39] share your accomplishments and let Crea articulate your value. So today we're going to dive into

[00:01:47] her fascinating background, her vision behind Crea and her invaluable advice on personal

[00:01:51] branding that transcends those traditional boundaries. Whether it's leveraging AI to

[00:01:56] craft your online persona or serendipitously meeting a mentor, her insights are a real

[00:02:02] gold mine for anyone looking to elevate their personal presence. But most of all

[00:02:06] she's just a lovely person and an inspiring person to spend 30 minutes with. So buckle

[00:02:12] up and hold on tight because no matter where you are in the world I'm going to be

[00:02:15] beaming your ears all the way to San Francisco where Deb is waiting to share her story.

[00:02:22] So a massive warm welcome to the show. Can you tell everyone listening a little about

[00:02:27] who you are and what you do? Hi Neil, thank you for having me on the show. My name

[00:02:31] is Deboshri Dutta, I go by Deb. I'm the founder and CEO of Crea, we're a Y

[00:02:36] combinator and venture backed AI tech startup where we bring your professional

[00:02:41] brand to life in 20 seconds with AI. So that's really what we do. I mean, think about it,

[00:02:47] you just type in a couple of keywords, answer a couple of questions and we'll spin up a

[00:02:50] stunning sort of like a web collateral for you that you can easily start to edit and

[00:02:55] share around. Incredibly cool. I mean, so much I'm looking forward to about digging

[00:03:00] a little bit deeper on that and finding out more about it but I always like finding

[00:03:03] out more about the human story as well behind these tech startups and your transition

[00:03:07] from a product leader on a H1B visa to the CEO of a YC backed startup is nothing short

[00:03:14] of inspiring. So can you tell me a little bit more about that story, some of the

[00:03:18] challenges and milestones of the journey that you've been on? Because it is incredibly

[00:03:24] inspiring isn't it, the journey that you've been on here and I'm hoping that it will

[00:03:27] inspire a lot of ladies in a similar position out there. Thank you and thank you for kind

[00:03:33] of broaching this. It's such an important part of my journey. So I am a first generation

[00:03:39] immigrant to the United States and I've been a computer nerd since when I was a little girl.

[00:03:44] So I came to Carnegie Mellon studying computer science and then I started my career as an

[00:03:49] engineer at Microsoft and eventually I was 13 years later, I worked in different places,

[00:03:55] I was head of product at PayPal where I used to lead our entire AI customer success

[00:04:00] Asian platforms. So, but when they like my, I come from a middle class home back in India.

[00:04:07] So my American dream was pay off my loans and hopefully be able to send money back home

[00:04:13] and start working toward a more stable life. So entrepreneurship is whole like

[00:04:18] entrepreneurship found me, I didn't go looking for it. But it's been very challenging as a

[00:04:25] female founder who doesn't have, it's hard enough to build a startup and it's hard enough

[00:04:30] to be an immigrant. It's hard enough to be female and I'm like, let's throw it all in

[00:04:34] together. Let's be a woman of color and then let's go start this startup. So it's been

[00:04:39] a rough ride but I think I've been fortunate to have met some of the most valuable mentors

[00:04:45] and folks who guided me through this journey. And I think a huge part of how and why I

[00:04:50] started CREA actually has to do with the journey that I've been on and what's led me to

[00:04:55] my successes, if you may. And I'm curious, if I was to take you way back to when you were

[00:05:00] that little girl there in India, where did your passion for technology come from? Was

[00:05:04] there a moment that, I don't know, lit a spark in you or something that would ultimately put

[00:05:10] you on this path? Can you remember where it originated from? I have this question a lot and

[00:05:16] it's weird. I don't think I was ever like, I always say that I'm a computer nerd, but

[00:05:20] actually the reality is I'm a nerd and I am also, I think my passion is actually in my

[00:05:27] creativity. I love creating things. So from a young age, I create, I love to, and I have to

[00:05:34] create visual things. That has been my thing. So it's not just with computers. I do a lot of

[00:05:40] DIY projects at home. I will never pay someone to paint my house. I will literally choose the

[00:05:45] colors, do the designs. I'm a big user. I love to do things with my hands. And I think computers

[00:05:51] and algorithms and so on, really what it enables you to do is go create things, go craft

[00:05:57] cool new things and see what comes out of it. So that's really my thought. It's not like

[00:06:01] I'm a technology nerd by any means. It's more so I get to go try something out and let's

[00:06:05] see what comes out. And that's really what has been my passion. Love it. And fast forward to

[00:06:11] 2024, raising over $5 million in VC funding in just 14 days is a significant achievement for

[00:06:18] any founder, even more so for a woman in tech. And the reason I say that we've covered a lot on

[00:06:23] this show, the lack of funding in female founders. And I always try and do a little bit

[00:06:27] to try lift women up in the industry. It's so important, but I'm curious what strategies

[00:06:33] did you employ to secure that funding? And what advice would you give to those other female

[00:06:38] founders seeking venture capital that could be listening to this conversation anywhere in the

[00:06:43] world? Yeah. So in a nutshell, really what helped me is realizing it doesn't happen

[00:06:50] overnight, right? Like realizing that at this stage, an investor is investing in you. It's

[00:06:58] your resilience. It's your successes. It's basically proving to the investor that

[00:07:04] your idea and your business is not where it's going to be. Like this is going to evolve,

[00:07:07] take shape and so on. So don't get obsessed about the product or the business. It's really

[00:07:13] how you show up and helping the person on the other hand, have confidence and trust in you

[00:07:18] because they're going to invest from hundreds of thousands to millions over time. They have to

[00:07:24] trust you to be able to put that to good use. So you really need to look at it in that

[00:07:29] angle. It took me some time to come up to it. So like initial days when I was just testing

[00:07:36] the waters and so on, I would keep leading with here's what I'm doing in CREA.

[00:07:41] And there were a few angel investors who I spoke with who actually gave me feedback like,

[00:07:46] great, great idea. We love it, but we want to hear about you, your story. So that's a huge

[00:07:52] thing. And by the way, that's really what we do at CREA. When I first quoted the first

[00:07:55] version of CREA, it really was to alleviate that. Everyone's going to Google you today.

[00:08:02] An investor is going to Google you. A hiring manager is going to Google you. A customer is

[00:08:05] going to Google you. You have probably 10 seconds to make an impression, like realistically.

[00:08:11] How do you do that? And that's really what matters. Like even with an investor conversation,

[00:08:15] right? Like how do you drive impact? How do you buy the next two minutes of their attention

[00:08:20] and the next two minutes of their attention so that they keep staying interested in you

[00:08:23] and feel like, okay, I'm listening to our old story. So that's what I do at CREA.

[00:08:28] And that's really been my journey to being successful so far in the fundraising journey.

[00:08:35] And we've mentioned CREA a few times. It'd be a great opportunity to

[00:08:39] introduce everyone listening to CREA. And the role of personal branding in professional success

[00:08:44] is increasingly being recognized. So how does CREA leverage AI to transform personal branding

[00:08:50] professionals? And what would you say sets your approach out, maybe different from other

[00:08:55] traditional methods and other emerging methods that are appearing out there?

[00:08:59] 100%. So listen, like I said, in my journey, let's start with my journey and why this came to me.

[00:09:05] Right? So I quoted the first while I was still in tech, I was working at PayPal and so on.

[00:09:11] I started, I got on the Instagram train 10 years ago and I grew to 170,000 followers.

[00:09:17] I started getting a lot of folks reaching out to me asking me for advice. Like Deb,

[00:09:22] how did you do this? And I started doing a lot of public speaking, writing for Forbes

[00:09:26] and so on. And so I've always been a side hustle, side gig kind of gal.

[00:09:30] And I never did it for the purpose of monetization. I was very satisfied with

[00:09:35] my day job and so on. This was just a hobby. But I actually coded the first version of CREA

[00:09:42] really as a way for me to showcase these other amazing things that I do because I'm

[00:09:48] growing on Instagram, but it's picturesque and I have to respond to DMs and if I want to

[00:09:52] pitch at a speaking event or, and so on. Right? Like I don't have a version of me that's easy to

[00:09:58] share unless I go off and build a website and then write the copy and so on.

[00:10:03] So I coded the first version of CREA and as I started using it, I put it out there. I

[00:10:10] remember I had 50 bookings, people trying to book me for my time on this portal that I put

[00:10:15] up. I said, I can't be the only one. I'm pretty sure everybody else wants to do this too.

[00:10:20] So that's when I turned this into what it is. And my whole objective is, like I said,

[00:10:25] everyone's going to Google you this 2024. And if you show up just with pictures with your dog

[00:10:30] or your kids, great. They understand the type of human you are, but they don't understand

[00:10:35] the type of professional you are. So what we do is you can enter a LinkedIn URL and answer

[00:10:42] a couple of questions and it will spin up a stunning personal brand website for you with

[00:10:48] recommendations for your content. For example, I'm doing a podcast today. I want to add this.

[00:10:52] This is part of my brand. I'm a public speaker. I want to add this so that I quickly jump on

[00:10:57] your mobile and add this within your portfolio. So, and we go beyond a personal website, right?

[00:11:02] Like we're looking at it as shaping the future of professional excellence.

[00:11:06] So we go beyond just a personal page. You can key in a couple of keywords that we can

[00:11:10] spin up a pitch deck for you if you're going to go fundraising. If you want to share

[00:11:15] social proof or testimonial videos and stuff about the successes that you've had,

[00:11:20] a couple of keywords that spins it up for you. So all of this is done with AI. And we base it

[00:11:25] based on the initial questions and the persona model that you created. The AI shapes the idea

[00:11:31] about who you are and then any assets that you want to create are developed based on how

[00:11:37] you use the platform basically. It's incredibly cool. And I suspect we will have people

[00:11:41] listening all over the world that want to do all that stuff. But things like building a website,

[00:11:46] creating the copy, that's the stuff that high-end professionals just haven't got the time,

[00:11:51] the luxury of time and the skills to sit down and do all that stuff. So I can understand its

[00:11:56] appeal here. And you've already got over a thousand high net worth individuals that are

[00:12:01] utilizing career services. And are you able to share a success story just to bring this

[00:12:06] to life and exemplify the transformative power of your coaching and AI toolkit in

[00:12:12] personal branding? Is there anything you can share around that?

[00:12:15] Plenty. I will not take names, but there are some folks who have made several hundred

[00:12:21] thousand in revenue just by developing their brand on our platform. We have some other

[00:12:26] folks who are for coaching services for over 15,000 just each package. We have several,

[00:12:33] I've personally gotten thank yous and congratulations and so on from

[00:12:37] people within our community who have received EB1A green cards because of sharing their CREA.

[00:12:45] Obviously there's multiple factors to it, but CREA was a significant part of them being

[00:12:49] showcased. So for me personally as an immigrant, that's a huge value add.

[00:12:54] So this has touched so many humans in ways that I didn't realize.

[00:12:59] I started out more so like for me personally, it was more to get in front of the right

[00:13:04] opportunities. People have gotten jobs, people have gotten green cards, people have gotten

[00:13:08] Stevie Awards and so on. So it's all these different things. It's multiple success stories.

[00:13:14] Oh, that's incredible. How much does it cost? How do people get involved? I'm just curious

[00:13:19] because there are a lot of people now that while they're listening to our conversation,

[00:13:21] they're probably looking up the CREA website and trying to find out more information.

[00:13:25] Just give me a very quick overview of how people can get up and running and how much it will cost,

[00:13:29] et cetera. Yeah, yeah. It's really, really easy. So firstly, the good news is there's

[00:13:33] a premium version for everyone to use and can keep. So you just go on CREA.co, which is

[00:13:38] C-R-I-Y-A dot C-O. Just hop in there, click on the Get Started button. I think there's a

[00:13:46] Create 20 seconds button. It'll just take you through one page where you just answer who you

[00:13:53] are, what your profession is and then you key in your LinkedIn URL if you want to use it.

[00:13:59] The more info you give it, obviously the more personalized the experience is.

[00:14:02] And then in 20 seconds, it's going to generate your one-pager that you can start with. Just

[00:14:07] click Customize and then you can slap on your domain name, add more pages. We have

[00:14:11] unlimited templates for the type of work that you want to do and the way you want to express

[00:14:16] yourself. All that is available once you're inside the platform. Well, that's going to be

[00:14:20] keeping me busy this weekend. I'm going to have to have a play with that. But for yourself,

[00:14:24] though, your extensive following on social media and engagement through blogs and podcasts,

[00:14:29] etc., when I was doing a little research on you straight away, I can see the strong personal

[00:14:33] brand. So what key principles would you say have guided your strategy in building and

[00:14:38] maintaining this brand? Because there's a lot of hard work that goes into that, isn't it?

[00:14:43] It is. And I think I started to see the value of fixed from pretty early on. So when

[00:14:47] I was quite early in my career, I think I was four or five years in, I worked as an engineer at

[00:14:54] yet another big name company. And I remember I'm known for a few things. I'm a hard worker.

[00:15:00] I'm that girl who will be up to 10 PM responding to emails, closing back,

[00:15:04] and things like that. And those are the times when layoffs were rampant. This is

[00:15:09] about 12 years ago. Layoffs were rampant. And I remember feeling so fearful, not that

[00:15:14] I would lose my job. But it is interesting, what if my boss loses his job? Or what if I'm moved?

[00:15:23] What if I actually lose my job? My entire reputation and the awesomeness that I am,

[00:15:28] if you may, is limited to the people that I'm immediately surrounded by, which is basically

[00:15:34] my team and my boss. So and I'm like very early on in my career realized, hold on,

[00:15:40] my reputation cannot be just tied to my employer. This needs to be out in the world so that I,

[00:15:45] as an asset can be, I can go after our maturity so that my values are known. And it's not just

[00:15:50] because of my current title and so on and in a certain employment. So I started working on that

[00:15:56] and that was the motivation behind it. So I think I started doing Instagram as a result.

[00:16:01] It was one of those things. One thing leads to another. I started volunteering at a ton of

[00:16:06] events that I wanted to just be a part of. And then from volunteering, I've been a photographer,

[00:16:11] I've been front desk registration helper and so on. From there you make the right contacts

[00:16:16] and from there you become a speaker at those events. And from those events you get to more

[00:16:20] events and you start to build your following and you start to develop a reputation and then

[00:16:25] you start and so on. So you have to start somewhere. And I think you have to be intentional

[00:16:29] about it is a career move. Having an Instagram following or having a LinkedIn following is not

[00:16:35] just for fun. It is a career move. And if you look at it that way, you will prioritize it.

[00:16:40] And it takes discipline, it takes work, but it pays off in so many ways and I think it's worth

[00:16:46] it. 100%. And I can testament to that as well. I was the IT guy before and I ended up doing

[00:16:52] all that stuff. And it kind of happened by accident and I only really realized the value

[00:16:57] of it about five, six years ago. And it ended up me leaving the day job behind and doing

[00:17:01] this full time. And from the emails that I get to this podcast, and those are a lot of people

[00:17:07] that would like to follow in our footsteps and there's a lot of busy professionals or thought

[00:17:11] leaders in their particular industry that are starting to pursue a role in public speaking.

[00:17:16] And I know you've got vast speaking experience including keynotes, media interviews and so

[00:17:22] much. So I think this might help some of those people listening. How do you prepare for

[00:17:26] these engagements to ultimately effectively deliver your message and engage your audience?

[00:17:31] Because very often you've got a short amount of time to deliver that message, haven't you?

[00:17:36] Yeah. I feel like I'm still getting better. And I do think it takes a lot of practice.

[00:17:40] Sometimes you could even work, you can role play with someone else and maybe they can help

[00:17:44] through this. I think the most important thing with the public speaking,

[00:17:47] and you can attest to this is the rule of threes, right? Whatever you want to deliver

[00:17:51] it in, if you may bullet point of threes, that goes a long way. And I do also think that

[00:17:58] before showing up for any type of engagement, whatever it may be a panel, an interview,

[00:18:02] doing a little bit of research on it. And just like the host is doing research on you,

[00:18:06] you do some research on who the audience is, what they want or what they will find helpful.

[00:18:12] Because ultimately you are on that shore, that event to cater to the listeners of that

[00:18:17] event and not just to tell your own story. So I think some of these things would just help

[00:18:21] cater the conversation. Yeah. I was speaking with Daniel Burris,

[00:18:25] a speaker in Vegas a few years ago and I was asking him, there was 10,000 people there

[00:18:30] were speaking in front of him. Do you ever get nervous? He said, no, if you're feeling nervous,

[00:18:34] you're making it about you. It's got to be about the people in the audience, not about

[00:18:38] you. As long as you make it about them, then you've got no reason to be nervous. So they

[00:18:42] almost set off that light bulb moment. Yeah, totally. Actually, I didn't think

[00:18:46] of it that way, but that is so true. That is so true.

[00:18:48] And for anybody listening that's maybe eager to enhance their own personal branding journey,

[00:18:53] is there any advice or tangible steps that you'd recommend just to help them unlock

[00:18:58] their opportunities that maybe they deserve? Maybe they've put a self-imposed ceiling or

[00:19:03] something holding them back. Any advice that you'd give to people listening now?

[00:19:07] I think we think personal branding is for high achievers or celebrities and so on. And I

[00:19:15] think that's not true. We all show up every day, we're all proud of the work that we're

[00:19:20] doing. We all have a brand that we are actually proud of. It's about packaging. I think it's an

[00:19:26] important... The first step is to first accept and recognize that you are all doing something

[00:19:32] that is important to you, which is why you're showing up for it. Start putting it out there.

[00:19:36] I think just documenting it in a form, which is not a resume. Think of it as actually

[00:19:42] even being a mom and even being a volunteer. Everything is part of who you are. So one is

[00:19:48] that's your personality or professional brand, if you may. The second thing I would recommend is

[00:19:54] it is actually quite... Once you start recognizing and actually getting disciplined about it,

[00:19:59] maybe start doing some early outreach just so you are able to see what resonates with you,

[00:20:06] who resonates back with what you have to offer. Oftentimes I'll hear from folks that

[00:20:11] I don't know if someone will even have me on their speaker and their show. And I'm like,

[00:20:15] you have to start somewhere. And you don't know your worth until you actually put yourself out

[00:20:20] there. So I think that's second, don't hold yourself back. You can be your biggest barrier.

[00:20:26] And the third, you should have crea because when you're pitching yourself anywhere in the world,

[00:20:33] it'll literally take you 20 seconds to put together all of the accomplishments like the

[00:20:36] metrics you have or anything. Even having 10 years of experience is actually a huge value

[00:20:43] because you have worked for 10 years in the industry and pretty sure you have

[00:20:46] experiences and ideas that someone who's starting out may not. And then that's worth sharing,

[00:20:51] right? So try crea because that would be a really easy way for you to communicate

[00:20:56] and share with potential speaking opportunities. Fantastic advice. And we began that conversation

[00:21:02] today talking about your origin story as a small girl in India, how you fell in love

[00:21:07] with technology and the path that you've been on. But of course, none of us are able to

[00:21:11] achieve any degree of success without a little help along the way. So I'm curious, was there

[00:21:15] a particular person or someone that maybe saw something in you? Someone you're grateful

[00:21:20] towards or a serendipitous moment or anyone that you're grateful towards that has really

[00:21:25] played a key role in your career? Who would that person be and why? It'd be great to give

[00:21:29] them a little shout out to that. I feel like it's almost unfair to say

[00:21:33] that there's just one. Yeah. I mean, obviously my family, my husband,

[00:21:37] the support system that I have, my investors have played a huge role. But I do want to share

[00:21:41] this one story just because it's such a fascinating story for me. I was still at PayPal

[00:21:47] at the time. I was meddling around with CREA, just getting it off the ground. I had some

[00:21:52] early traction and I got an email in my inbox from TechCrunch saying, hey, TechCrunch Disrupt

[00:21:58] is this September. And I think it was March. And did you want to apply to be on the TechCrunch

[00:22:03] Disrupt? There was something called Startup Alley. It was a startup battle thing. I was like,

[00:22:08] what the hell? And I applied to it. I got picked out of, I don't know, I was one of 15

[00:22:15] to pitch on that Startup Alley, whatever, the stage and it was COVID days. So the whole

[00:22:21] thing was remote. And come September, I'm here, I'm on the Zoom call and I'm trying to pitch.

[00:22:28] And ended up meeting the most incredible possible investors, advisors and so on. And one of them

[00:22:37] is Deanna Brown who has now become a full-time advisor. So I met her two and a half years ago,

[00:22:44] randomly pitching. I wasn't even a full-time startup at the time. She just took an interest

[00:22:49] in me and we kind of stayed in touch, just keeping it updated. She'll keep me updated.

[00:22:55] Today she's an advisor. She hops on calls with me, helps us with go-to-market strategies.

[00:22:59] I nearly texted her just yesterday saying, I have some ideas. Can we hop on a call?

[00:23:03] We brainstorm all the time. You would typically think that your mentors and your advisors will

[00:23:08] come from within your circle and you've already known them and so on. Who knew? Firstly,

[00:23:13] I was not even building a startup and I pitched TechCrunch, which was in March,

[00:23:17] till I quit by May. And by September, I was raising capital. So the whole thing just came

[00:23:22] together. Sometimes you just have to take the right action and the right people will show up

[00:23:26] in your lives. And I'm so grateful for the support, the encouragement and just being such

[00:23:31] a wonderful confidant. So shout out to her. Wow. What an amazing story. And the reason I

[00:23:36] always ask that question, I think it's so important that these people that play such

[00:23:40] a pivotal role in our careers, that were probably blissfully unaware just how much of

[00:23:44] an impact they've had on us. It's so good to give them a shout out. And anyone listening

[00:23:49] that would just like to find out more information, get playing with the platform there. Like,

[00:23:55] I'm going to be doing this weekend or maybe they want to contact you or your team.

[00:23:58] Where would you like to point everyone listening? So you can find crea at c-r-i-y-a dot c-o,

[00:24:06] that's crea.co. And if you ever want to get in touch with me, you can always find me

[00:24:11] at deb.crea.ai. Well, thank you so much today for not only sharing tangible next steps,

[00:24:20] for anybody listening to leverage technology, leverage AI to get their professional brand

[00:24:26] a good old fashioned kickstart there that enables their career path and helps them

[00:24:30] seek opportunities they deserve. That stuff is priceless, especially where a lot of time where

[00:24:34] a lot of people are fearful of AI. I think my advice to anybody listening will be go

[00:24:38] and have a play go and see what you can create there and let me know what you managed to do.

[00:24:43] But more than anything, thank you for taking the time to sit down with me,

[00:24:46] share your inspirational story that you've been on. I really appreciate your time. Thank

[00:24:51] you so much. Thank you so much, Neil. This was such a pleasure. Thank you for having me.

[00:24:56] So as we wrap up today's enlightening conversation with Dab, I think it's

[00:25:01] clear that personal branding is much more than a static online profile. It's actually

[00:25:06] about narrating your professional journey in a way that resonates and opens doors to opportunities

[00:25:11] that you deserve. And please take inspiration from Dab's journey from a product manager

[00:25:17] to a CEO, to her success harnessing AI for personal branding and her strategic advice

[00:25:23] offering you a blueprint to make your mark. So Dab, huge thank you again for sharing

[00:25:29] your incredible journey and insights with us today and over to everybody listening.

[00:25:33] I'm putting the microphone in front of you now. Remember, the digital world is essentially your

[00:25:39] stage and it's a journey that I've taken as well. I was in IT for 20 years before I went

[00:25:44] into the world of tech journalism and tech podcasting every single day. So if there's

[00:25:50] anything I can do to help as well, again, let me know. So over to you. Have you considered

[00:25:55] how AI could amplify your personal brand? I'd love to hear your thoughts, stories and

[00:25:59] everything in between around personal branding and how you're using technology

[00:26:03] to improve that. So email me techblogwriteratoutlook.com. You can get me on Twitter,

[00:26:08] LinkedIn, Instagram, just at Neil C Hughes. Let's keep this conversation going.

[00:26:14] So I wish you the best of luck taking your next step in your professional branding journey.

[00:26:19] If you find any other tech tools that you'd like to share, let me know. After all,

[00:26:23] the opportunity of a lifetime could be just that one click away. But tomorrow we'll have

[00:26:28] another completely different story, completely different technology. And I cordially invite

[00:26:33] you to join me once again, but that's it for today. So thank you for listening as always.

[00:26:38] And until next time, don't be a stranger.