2972: Demystifying Wi-Fi 7 with NETGEAR

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_00]: What does the future hold for out ever evolving digital landscapes on the Wi-Fi that we take

[00:00:08] [SPEAKER_00]: for grant of the powers every device connection and experience?

[00:00:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, today I want to explore a topic that promises to revolutionise all of our connected experiences.

[00:00:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Yep, I'm talking about Wi-Fi 7.

[00:00:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And today I'm going to be joined by Gary Nussin, the EMEA Sales Director at NETGEAR.

[00:00:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's going to help us demystify this cutting edge technology.

[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Because under the hood, yes it boasts remarkable advancements such as 4x faster throughput than

[00:00:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Wi-Fi 6e, double the available bandwidth and the capability to connect up to 200 devices simultaneously.

[00:00:47] [SPEAKER_00]: But what does all that actually mean for our homes, our devices, our work, and our digital lives?

[00:00:54] [SPEAKER_00]: How will it enhance things like streaming, gaming and that expanding universe of the Internet of Things?

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[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_00]: but now, time to get today's guest on. So buckle up and hold on tight as I beam your ears all the

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_00]: way to the UK where Gary Nusen is going to talk about all this and share a few insights from

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_00]: NetGear too. So a massive warm welcome to the show, Gary. I think the last time I interviewed

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_00]: you was in another life on a NetGear podcast, but can you type one listening to TechTalks daily

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_00]: about who you are and what you do? Hi, Neil. Thanks for having me.

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_01]: My name is Gary Nusen. Last time we spoke was probably about three and a half years ago in

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_01]: a previous life at NetGear. I've been at NetGear now six and a half years. So my current position

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_01]: is a mere sales director for basically to consume a channel so he commerce and retail.

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Right, so that in my previous life as I said, I was working in the marketing team at NetGear.

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_01]: But I've been in tech now for about 15 years, which is scary to say so I've worked. We're

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_01]: we're that in product management roles and marketing or sales roles. I've been around

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_01]: scaring me now a lot longer than I thought it was when I sat down and thought it was about me last

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_00]: night. And the thing is so much has changed in both our careers from a technical aspect,

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_00]: but more recently of course there has been so much hype around WiFi 7 and I'd look to

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_00]: mystify some of it today for people listening that maybe heard a few things about it,

[00:03:36] [SPEAKER_00]: but by a little bit of adornting subjects. So how do you think WiFi 7 will revolutionise this

[00:03:42] [SPEAKER_00]: connectivity landscape? Or what specific improvements can the average consumer expect compared to

[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_01]: WiFi 6E for example? Yeah, so I always like to sort of look at this, I guess in real life

[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_01]: term shall we say so. I mean if you sit back now and think the progress that WiFi is at over the course

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_01]: it's life time. I mean I can go back to even when I was young, I'm not really having any

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_01]: internet connectivity at our house at all. So where we are today, whereby I mean everything from

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_01]: your phone to your laptop to a fridge freezer and a move that can be connected to your internet.

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think the main elements when we look at WiFi 7 and the benefits, the first one is really

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_01]: increased capacity to deal with like more than the months. When we look at, I mean if you sit back

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_01]: now and any of the listeners sit back and think, actually how many of my devices need

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_01]: internet connectivity. It really makes you think about actually the pressure you're putting on

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_01]: your network so WiFi 7 but the main improvements are going to come with increased capacity

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_01]: which then ultimately improves overall speed and in some cases coverage and the other real benefit

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_01]: you're going to get is improved performance through sort of less interference on the network.

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_01]: So taking all those things into account effectively, it will be able to do is run more devices

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_01]: simultaneously and actually take a advantage of the gravity in that speed that you get

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_01]: throughout whether you're based in the UK or wherever it is in the world, but internet speed

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_01]: is only getting faster through service providers. So for you even an eye I think we can probably

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_01]: pump thebly get over a gig of its speed in your house now. It's utilizing technologies and

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_01]: devices that will allow you to take for an advantage of that and I think that's where WiFi 7

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_00]: sort comes into its own. Yeah, I was thinking about this recently even if we go back to when we

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_00]: we less spoke three years ago, suspected we looked at our home router and everything that was

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_00]: connected to it and I challenge everybody listening to our conversation and say go see how many devices

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_00]: are connected to it because now we have doorbells, games consoles, tablets, smartphones, TVs,

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_00]: even toasters come with toasters and kels have WiFi connections now, smarty and light

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_01]: step the list that goes on and on doesn't it? Yeah, it's incredible I think. I mean even my washing

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_01]: machine I'll know like you can set the timer and start a kind of pan so it's sort of so you can

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_01]: align what we're going to get back to how to other sit there wet but it's yeah it's crazy when you think

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_01]: about it. I think last time was like I remember looking at it in my orbit I think that's probably

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_01]: only about 30, 40 connected devices a few years ago I checked now probably an excess of 80 to 100

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_01]: because as you say cameras, store bills whatever it might smart speakers, light bulbs all of those

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_01]: things when you start to add them all up they do start to obviously have a weight and a bearing

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_01]: on the capacity that you use on the network as well. Yeah that's something we don't talk about

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_00]: enough how all these devices are competing for bandwidth when you go on to that zoom goal

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_00]: or Microsoft Teams called for the import and work me in and for the technical aspect I was really

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_00]: about WiFi 7's ability to provide two-exly available bandwidth with channels up to 320 megahertz

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_00]: wide and a lot of people listening that will sound like dock brown in back to the future and think

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_00]: great Scott so I'm curious what does the impact of this mean to every day usage and for the

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_01]: user. Yeah so we're now getting overly technical with this because I'm conscious we can end up

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_01]: going down a rabbit hole in this one but the fact is we only talk about the overall capacity of

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_01]: the network which is what you refer into there and then the benefits of it typically when you

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_01]: talk about things like smart phones and laptops they have what is it basically a two by two

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_01]: radio in them which if you're using a WiFi 6 client currently you'll be able to get probably

[00:07:40] [SPEAKER_01]: two point-by-gigabits feed or a maximum directly within two point-by-gigabits to those devices

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_01]: whereas with WiFi 7 clients you can get up to 5 gigabits of speed when you look at the 320 megahertz

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_01]: operation this basically is running extremely low latency so for the likes of consumers that will

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_01]: game in or streaming high definition content that's where the benefit will come in because you're

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_01]: not going to be having free gaming extreme lagging those types of things and the other element

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_01]: that we then need to look at as we say about this is the interference when you talk about WiFi 7

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_01]: in the fear act of speeds and sort of improvements WiFi 6 devices will benefit from low interference

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_01]: like even with your neighbors or other devices in your house WiFi 7's a lot more efficient as

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_01]: as a network and you'll benefit from speed improvements there as well and then luckily said before

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_01]: just hi-copacity in WiFi 7 translates to highest speed so this allows you to get smoothest streaming

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_01]: less jitter in like you say when you're a conference in video calls having two or three

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_01]: going simultaneously like I know in my house my wife will uncomfortable to go to the day

[00:08:51] [SPEAKER_01]: what this will really then there is give you a much more stable connection so when you talk about

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_01]: what the everyday use it is and the benefits are it's really around having going back to your first

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_01]: question in the point it's going to be improved the improved speed improved stability of connection

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_01]: and then having more devices being able to do that at once so that's really where we come

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_01]: back to the overall crux of what benefit is there for a consumer they're they're the baseline

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_00]: and one of the standout features of WiFi 7 for me especially based on a few of the

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_00]: comments we were talking about a few moments ago is it's capability to connect up to 200

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_00]: devices simultaneously so of course what do you think this means for the future of smart homes

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_00]: and iot devices because hopefully there's going to be a lot more connections coming onto our networks right

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_01]: oh yeah i mean as you look at it and this is one of the elements to consider is usually when

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_01]: there's a technology shift like with WiFi I like to explain it in a similar way to mobile networks

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_01]: for example because i think most people have all familiar with that everyone's got a mobile

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_01]: fire we've all gone through lock yes 32 tens or whatever is when we were running on 3g net

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_01]: works and stuff if you take WiFi as a sort of a progression it's very similar to the way that mobile

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_01]: networks have gone so 3g 4g we're now at 5g same principle with with WiFi WiFi WiFi 6 WiFi

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_01]: WiFi 7 when you look at the capacity now the way that it normally works is you're the hard

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_01]: way for the network will come out like the routers or the devices that get delivered to market

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_01]: and other brands but when you then look at the hardware that follows due to the chipset right so

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_01]: every time there's a little bit of a lag as you start to bring out a new network but then what

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_01]: does is chipset becomes more available of more devices especially internet connected devices

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_01]: even when I all come to market so future smart i'm a smear it's well where does it start we've seen

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_01]: numerous devices over the course of the last decade also comes to market that we never

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_01]: probably should all exist and now operational function in a normal day life so for me it's going

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_01]: more and more devices that offer more convenience and about a better way of life consumers to be on it

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_00]: and as an exciting I kind of blows my mind at home network could have up to 200 devices which is

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_00]: many many more than some of the small to medium sized businesses not I work with another lifetime

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_00]: so we've got to mention security so how will enhance security features of WiFi 7 how will they protect

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_00]: IoT and smart devices on those home networks and why is it so important for consumers the

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_01]: thing yeah I mean from a net gear perspective we're American-based company right so for us we take

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_01]: security extraneous seriously whether that's the integrity about crossing the data all the way

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_01]: through to protecting people and the devices not meant that work and so for us when we look at there

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_01]: are standard things that you could look at like the WPA theory and that protocol which is effectively

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_01]: the baseline of security that's recommended when you talk about a network which is a pretty much

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_01]: standard I think now but then when you start to look at WiFi 7 and especially when you look at

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_01]: that year WiFi 7 products for example all be there are other benefits from a security perspective

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_01]: so channel separation so when we look at having dedicated networks so even simple things

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_01]: from the perspective of having your main network you can now set a dedicated IoT network

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_01]: and you can have a dedicated destiny network so all of those if you're working at home for

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_01]: example when you main network you may not want to invite guests onto that network when they're there

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_01]: because you might want to maintain that as much more dedicated and secure things so being able

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_01]: to do that the other pieces then being able to allocate specific devices to specific frequencies or

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_01]: bands as well is really a really integral part but then when you look at other elements like

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_01]: the security things that we've implemented so probably familiar I know this probably might be

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_01]: the first time you and I have discussed this but a network part no with the company called Armo which is

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_01]: about a bit defender within that we effectively people can subscribe to in-home security features

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_01]: so that will give you right VPN access and then within that there are other things that we've

[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_01]: implemented so effectively one I'll give you one example of things that we've done differently

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_01]: specifically when you would roll out an improved for security patch on the group or a

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_01]: mesh system for example what that would usually have been associated with is a firmware update

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_01]: but when you do a firmware update things have to be tested QA then roll out

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_01]: what we've actually done or what arm or done in conjunction with networking where the only

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_01]: people that offer them or for arm or allow products is what we've done is advanced through

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_01]: protection so basically what we've done is decoupled any firmware requirements with security patches

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_01]: so we can roll them out faster and more efficiently so people don't have to sit there and wait for us

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_01]: to do it all of the previous steps that I just mentioned for a standard firmware route out so

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_01]: there are other benefits that are specific to networking but there are others that are specific

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_01]: to WiFi 7 as well as I say more channels around you to segment networks as well

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_00]: and I'm curious are there any other new developments that we could possibly expect from that

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_00]: gear in terms of WiFi 7 compatible products and how are these products try to enhance the user

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_00]: experience in areas such as streaming, gaming, hybrid working all those areas with people will be

[00:14:28] [SPEAKER_01]: doing that will be listening to this podcast. Yeah so I mean you can imagine as a as a hard

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_01]: where a brand we're always looking to bring products out I mean recently I mean last week

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I alone we launched the one about new routers so we can use that as a baseline example I mean

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_01]: that's one of a product actually obviously that will be 97 that was our first

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_01]: quadband system that we bought out so we're always looking to develop new products and bring

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_01]: all of that more out that offer different experiences for the requirements of consumers so

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_01]: we offer mesh systems and routers routers tend to be for more average gamers for example 10 to

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_01]: use our routers, their high performance whereas mesh systems and people that may have

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_01]: larger properties and want to roll out wider coverage for out there their homes. So from that perspective

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah we're always making spring out new developments and new products but I mean we've got a couple

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_01]: of new examples that have just rolled out to the market yeah. I've glad you mentioned mesh there

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_00]: because black spots or areas in a home don't get those speeds that they grow in a custom

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_00]: to can often frustrate users so how do mesh WiFi systems like netgears or b-series for example

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_00]: they're integrated with WiFi 7. Can you just expand on how they provide extended coverage

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_00]: and faster broadband throughout the home because I suspect there's going to be a few people

[00:16:00] [SPEAKER_00]: that there are rooms in their home that don't get like those come as speed it must be one of

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_00]: those questions and problems you hear about a lot. Yeah so if you go back legacy I mean probably

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_01]: you'd imagine really I think people are using their probably extenders that your people used to

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_01]: go in and you plug it into a wall or have a standalone extended that would tether into

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_01]: your router and you would basically create in that scenario two networks so as you move around

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_01]: your house you'd have to reconnect between modern the hour until sort of mesh case facilities came

[00:16:29] [SPEAKER_01]: effectively what I message them is you get a router and satellites the satellites can be placed

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_01]: around your house in various locations depending on how big your house is for the walls

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_01]: whatever it might be and these then link back directly to the router or one another depending

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_01]: on the way that the mesh system works well that then allows you to do is seamlessly walk around

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_01]: your house and utilize what that works so what will happen is you move between rooms a room in

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_01]: your house your devices all connect to the most powerful signal which is usually the nearest device

[00:17:06] [SPEAKER_01]: and that allows you to have one cohesive network around your entire property so you get

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_01]: getting like you say it removes black spots in the house you don't have any network issues you

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_01]: get in drop off and you will also get a more seamless connection throughout so you have

[00:17:23] [SPEAKER_01]: a better overall experience when you move and could you not have to reconnect to a different

[00:17:27] [SPEAKER_01]: network whilst you're moving around the property which seems crazy but that was way that networks

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_00]: worked at one point. A question I've got to ask is this around this transition to WiFi 7 out

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_00]: are there any challenges that you'll foresee or any conversations that you hear from customers

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_00]: how are you at necker preparing to address some of those challenges for both consumers and businesses

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_00]: what are you hearing and what are you preparing for here? I think the biggest thing if I'm being honest

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_01]: with you was education. I think like today obviously there's some questions around

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_01]: demystifying a lot of WiFi 7 is and sort of the relevant sort of it. I think education is a massive

[00:18:07] [SPEAKER_01]: of how any technology adoption goes and I think you saw it when we had WiFi 5, WiFi 6, WiFi 6

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_01]: the same questions always were asked was what but is it really relevant? And I'd think now it's

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_01]: a case and let's take example and I think lockdown was probably one of the times when people

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_01]: sort started to really understand the importance of WiFi because everyone was at home. So the

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_01]: bit of WiFi goes out now I'm more likely to notice that than it might power going down because

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm constantly looking at something that needs interconnectivity. So I mean for me it's now

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_01]: when we've got a fantastic marketing team admittedly on a bit by a sea so you said like that you can

[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_01]: go up to that team and that group who are really driven to educate customers so you can go on

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_01]: our website things like this your podcast would be great for that. Here are as we know around

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_01]: pushing out articles specifically around that into the mainstream media is really important and

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the main thing but ultimately in the biggest in the what in the grand scheme of things

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_01]: when we look at how consumers and businesses WiFi 7 will benefit them it's going to give you a

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_01]: longer shelf life of your product it's going to give you a future proof solution because WiFi 7 will

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_01]: be here for a long time now and as we've seen we see WiFi 6 and WiFi 6, WiFi 6, WiFi 7

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_01]: is the next thing it will give you a much more robust connection for a longer period so anyone

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_01]: looking to upgrade a highly recommend WiFi 7 is a future proof solution for you,

[00:19:48] [SPEAKER_00]: whether it's your business or your own. Technology never stands to the pace of technological

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_00]: change seems to be moving faster than ever recently so I've got to ask how do you see the adoption

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_00]: of WiFi 7 and WiFi 7 itself? How do you think that evolving in the next year and beyond?

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah I mean I think it's going to evolve pretty quickly I mean when as I say or it wasn't

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_01]: that long ago probably three years ago that was having discussions around the adoption of WiFi 6 and

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_01]: WiFi 6 E and look at where we are now. As it progresses more devices as I say will come to

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_01]: market that WiFi 7 compatible so you usually start off with mobile devices tablets and then it

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_01]: starts to roll out wider than that as people start to develop their new hardware products wherever

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_01]: it's TVs or microwave or whatever it is that you're looking at. I think over the course of the next

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_01]: year, well 12 to 18 months adoption will increase significantly not only that more device is on

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_01]: more hardware devices at a WiFi 7 will come out so I think as that starts the comment will become

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_01]: effectively the new the new normal become the new baseline for WiFi technology over the next 12 to 18

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_00]: months for sure. Well as always we're an absolute pleasure to have you back on the podcast sharing your

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_00]: insights around WiFi 7 but before I let you go I'm going to ask you to leave one final gift or

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_00]: least one final gift for everyone on this thing. I always ask by guests especially with WiFi 7 being

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_00]: so crucial to streaming content and consuming content right now. I ask my guess is there a book

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_00]: that means something to you that you would recommend that we can add to our Amazon wishlist or a song

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_00]: that we could add to our Spotify playlist, Gil E Pleasures are allowed by the way but what would you

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_01]: do the song list that's literally downloaded on my Spotify so I sit there and I look for it and

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_01]: have some really good songs on there that are the teeth of the freebies he selected said

[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_01]: it's a lot of pressure with this one but I think if I have to choose one I think there's a

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_01]: UK based band called Jungle I'm not sure if you have some earlier with them. I highly recommend

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_01]: listening to their albums actually when we might like to one of their concerts last week actually

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_01]: but one of their songs keep moving if anyone's looking for something to sort of write and they're

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_01]: as a really good sort of motivational sort of enjoyable song so I think Jungle keep moving would be

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_01]: that but any of their songs to be honest it's great. I actually love Spotify I think one of the

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_01]: things I always do is share your year roundups and music because one of my big clubs in life and

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_01]: I think it gives you the amount of minutes that you listen to throughout the year and I mean most

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_01]: people are sending them over I've got a group where we share them and I keep them about 30,000

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_01]: minutes listening to and last year I think I was 128,000 minutes listening to it so I literally

[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_01]: have music on most of the day to be honest though yeah I would definitely recommend and recommend

[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Jungle there were brilliant man if you could not listen to them or yeah absolutely brilliant

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_00]: and I think they they completely rocked the glass delivery last week as well but I've got to ask

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_00]: you just took 28,000 minutes of music here what were the guilty pleasures that come out of that

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Spotify rep whether any surprises in there that you kind of wish we're not there but

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just looking through my list as we speak I've got Spotify and I'm looking at I've

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_01]: listened to quite a lot of different music I mean one of the songs that I've been listening to quite

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_01]: a lot at the moment is diastraint so it's just I've got quite an eclectic selection of music with

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_01]: my straights I listen to quite a bit which is totally a little bit of a gelsy pleasure of mine

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah I mean I think there's anything that would stand out to me as being I would be a

[00:23:46] [SPEAKER_00]: shame if telling anyone anyway well I give you a little side mission for you here if you go on

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Twitter or exes he's called now have a look for Russell Crowe set at Glastonbury last week

[00:23:58] [SPEAKER_00]: he did a die straight cover it was quite good as well so I think you go check that out but

[00:24:03] [SPEAKER_00]: yeah but for all things WiFi 7 back here talked about today obviously that gave us a huge

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_00]: site and I know you're doing a lot to demystify and there's our blogs around WiFi 7 is it

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_00]: anyway in particular you would point everyone listening to find out more yeah so obviously we've got

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_01]: our corporate websites and that gidd.com so you can go on there we have regional sites for

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_01]: the different languages as well so by all means go in and just to whatever region you're listening

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_01]: you've got any information there we do have a contact methods on there so you can email

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_01]: us in getting contact there we have all the social platforms as well so in-stagram all of those

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_01]: reach out to us on those as well and then on LinkedIn also if anyone wants to look up

[00:24:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Nick give a LinkedIn or even myself feel free to add me yeah you've got any questions being

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_00]: me directly and I would challenge everybody listening to this podcast today go on your home route

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_00]: see how many devices are actually connected and how WiFi 7 might benefit you and Gary's a

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_00]: pleasure always talking to you I just can't thank you enough for talking about this in the

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_00]: language everyone can understand demystify and WiFi 7 and helping everyone understand what it

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_00]: could mean for them as well especially as we all have so many devices competing for bandwidth but

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_00]: pleasure is always Gary thanks again thank you for having me so as we wrap up our discussion on WiFi 7

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_00]: with Gary Newsom from Nick here I think it's clear that this new standard is set to transform

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_00]: add digital environments from its superior speed and capacity to its enhanced security features

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_00]: WiFi 7 looks poised to handle the increasing demands of smart homes and IoT devices especially

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_00]: when you look at almost every home appliance from a toaster to a watch image in now comes with that

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_00]: internet ready connection and I love how Nick is commitment to innovation is ensuring that their

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_00]: consumers will benefit from things like seamless connectivity and extended coverage making future

[00:26:01] [SPEAKER_00]: proofing our networks more accessible than ever and as I said in the interview if the average home

[00:26:06] [SPEAKER_00]: has got between 50 and 100 devices connected to their home network all competing for bandwidth

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_00]: and then compare that to the workplace of yesterday in a small to medium sized business they'll

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_00]: more connect some things inside our homes and in the workplace of few years ago but what are your

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_00]: thoughts on the potential of WiFi 7 how do you see impacting your digital life as always share

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_00]: your insights join the conversation email me techprogeri.atroot.com twitter link to an instagram at

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_00]: neolcuse and look at your thoughts on them but until next time stay connected and curious thanks for

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_00]: listening and until next time don't be astranging